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The Blue Roan Dream: From Bonanza to Reality

• Haste Draft Horses and Mules • Episode 14

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A childhood dream sparked by watching Bonanza, a revolutionary trap design born from wilderness frustration, and a century-old wagon connecting five generations—Kim Harris's story weaves together the threads of innovation, perseverance, and honoring heritage in ways that both surprise and inspire.

From the high plains of Conrad, Montana, Kim shares his journey from custom swathing farmer to inventor of the groundbreaking Centerfire Trap, a design that addressed problems trappers had faced for over 200 years. With candid humor and heartfelt sincerity, he reveals how his obsession with improving wolf trapping led to sleepless nights and eventually, a revolutionary product that changed the industry.

But it's Kim's lifelong dream of owning blue roan draft horses and restoring his grandfather's 1916 Peter Shuttler wagon that truly captures the heart. After preserving this wagon since childhood, Kim details his meticulous restoration project with Doug Hansen of Hansen Wagon Wheel, including plans to recreate his grandfather's journey hauling grain to town—a goal set decades ago in junior high school.

The conversation flows through Kim's experiences acquiring multiple draft horse teams, raising six children, and building connections across geographical boundaries. His story illuminates how these magnificent animals have created lasting friendships and community, including the annual October gathering that brings draft horse enthusiasts together in Kentucky.

Beyond the practical aspects of working with draft horses, this episode explores deeper themes of legacy, family connections, and preserving traditional skills in a rapidly changing world. As Kim reflects, "Everything out there might be different, but it's all the same in here," pointing to the universal values that connect us despite our different backgrounds.

Whether you're a draft horse owner, trapping enthusiast, or simply someone who appreciates stories of purpose and passion, this conversation offers both practical insights and emotional resonance. Join us for this remarkable journey spanning generations, geography, and the enduring bond between humans and horses.

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Speaker 1:

Welcome to Harness Up with Haste Draft Horses and Mules, where we talk all things related to these magnificent animals, from their history and uses to training and care. We cover it all. Join us as we chat with experts and enthusiasts in the field, share stories and tips and explore the world of draft horses and mules. Whether you're a seasoned owner or just curious about these gentle giants, this podcast is for you.

Speaker 2:

So harness up and join Haste Draft Horses and Mules Harness Up Podcast. Hope everybody's having a wonderful Monday morning this morning Starting out, happy St Patrick's Day. It's St Patrick's Day, so happy St Patrick's Day. Hope everybody's got their green on so you don't get pinched. Kim's got his green on over here. I got green on too, so we're good to go.

Speaker 2:

But, guys, we've had a big, big week. It's been super, super busy. We had a clinic last week and we was here all week long and I had a good friend of mine come from Conrad Montana and Kim has been a friend for I guess a year now. He bought a few teams from us. We'll go into all that story, but Kim was my senior advisor for my clinic here at the place this week and I want to introduce you to y'all, introduce Kim to y'all. So, kim Harris from Conrad Montana, how are you, kim? I'm doing good. Kim has been super good to us. He's been started out. Just I sold him a team of horses and it's turned into. He's kind of one of us now. Really, to be honest with you, it's been quite a venture.

Speaker 2:

It sure has man. He come down to help us with our clinic and we're here monday morning and I'm gonna take him to the airport, fly back to montana. He's probably ready to go home, kind of about ready to go check things out.

Speaker 3:

Make sure it's still there, and then I'll be satisfied to want to leave again we got the office here.

Speaker 2:

we're actually in the office first podcast I've recorded at the office and and it's going good. I hope it turns out good anyway. But Kim slept here in the office all week, was it good, kim?

Speaker 3:

Hey couldn't beat the accommodations. It's kind of like home. Where did you take a shower Back there in the horse stall and it worked out pretty good. It wasn't a bad shower at all.

Speaker 2:

So, guys, if you want to come here and buy a team, you can stay for free and have a free shower in the horse wash bay, but that's up to y'all. But kim enjoys it and it works out perfect and we sure appreciate him. So let's talk about kim a little bit now. I can talk all day. I want to let him talk some. So tell them a little bit about where you're from, kim, and so that stuff so I'm from uhrad, montana, born and raised there, never left my granddad.

Speaker 3:

when he was a baby they homesteaded from Blue Earth Minnesota and he was just a baby and rode a wagon train all the way out there. I mean, I can't even imagine back in them days, but it'd be pretty cool.

Speaker 2:

so he went from minnesota to conrad montana yes, he did.

Speaker 3:

yeah, and his family, uh, his dad, my great granddad, he uh, you know, took on a piece of land, homesteaded it whatever, and that's that's where I grew up was at that homestead, so that's pretty cool yeah.

Speaker 2:

And you're doing something.

Speaker 2:

Kim's been talking to me all week. We actually went to West Virginia together. The clinic was over Thursday and then Friday we was all just hanging out, you know, just chilling a whole bunch of people that was here from the clinic. I had a call come in that wanted to buy a pair of horses and wanted to go to West Virginia, williamsburg, west Virginia. Well, kim's from the west side of the United States, the Rockies, and he'd never really seen the Appalachian Mountains. And I said, well, heck, I'm going to ask Kim if he'll go with me to take these horses to West Virginia. And what did you say, kim?

Speaker 3:

Well, it was pretty unique. We saw, you know, some bad part of the country. We saw some really beautiful country and the mountains you know they're different than the mountains at home, but they're still mountains and it was a fun trip.

Speaker 2:

It was really cool Y'all can watch. Actually watch the video of me and Kim. If you go to YouTube and type in Haystraft, horses and Mules, you'll see a video on there called the west virginia trip with kim harris, so check that out. I did a little vlog of our video going out to west virginia, so check that out, you may enjoy it. But uh, kim, what are you doing? Conrad, what's? What are you still doing?

Speaker 3:

so I grew up as a farmer rancher and uh couldn't make any money farming and and uh then went into uh. I was a motorcycle snowmobile dealer for a while. After we sold the farm and uh then went uh from that. Because of, uh, I guess, relationship issues, I uh I bought a little piece of land on the outskirts of Conrad and bought a swather and I started custom swathing and there really wasn't any custom swathing going on. So me and another guy, a friend of mine, were kind of the first ones to do it and been doing that for over 30 years now. It's been pretty good. It's kind of a feast and famine business. I mean, some years are really good good and some of yours are pretty bad, but overall average it's it's pretty good business a lot of the listeners on here might not know what customs.

Speaker 2:

They probably don't know what a swather is, so explain a little bit about swathing okay, so yeah, then you're right, they probably don't.

Speaker 3:

uh, wind rowing sometimes gets their attention, makes them know more what's going on. But like you would windrow an alfalfa crop to bale it, we do that for grains, canola lentils, whatever they want, and basically it's cutting it early before a combine, putting it in a windrow to kind of save it, let it dry out and then either bale it or combine it or whatever.

Speaker 2:

behind us Some of y'all might not know. He's on the High Line. The High Line is in northern Montana, right up on the Canadian border.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, 60 miles from the Canadian border.

Speaker 2:

And I went up there one time and sold a horse to a woman up there. She was actually at the clinic in Billings.

Speaker 3:

Yep, he was there too, and I and I knew her and I recognized her and I said what are you doing here? I sold her and her husband some cattle like 30 years ago wasn't that crazy it was. I mean, it's a small world. You see people that you meet all the time. What was her name?

Speaker 2:

help me uh linda.

Speaker 3:

No, I never can remember her first name and the last name. I should know, but I can't think of it right now at the moment.

Speaker 2:

Well, shout out to you up on the highway. I know who you are. She's like a middle-aged lady Griffin. Griffin.

Speaker 3:

Griffin. Yes, Her last name was Griffin.

Speaker 2:

Griffin Farms. Yeah, and this older lady her husband has since then passed away and she is still on the high line and that lady's running those farms still to this day, those ranches, yep, and growing crops, and super good lady, I really enjoy her. She's got a head full of knowledge about living up there and working on the high line. I'll never forget the time I went up there, I went to her place donna donna griffin.

Speaker 2:

Shout out. Donna, we appreciate you. I went up there to deliver that horse I sold to her. I thought I was in the middle of nowhere. It was wild man, gravel roads and just wheat fields, far as I can see it's kind of an acquired taste. Is it like that in Conrad?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, in Conrad you can look any direction. You look north, there's the Sweetgrass Hills. You look east, you've got the Bear Paw Mountains. You look south, you've got the Highland Mountains, and you look west, you've got the Rocky Mountains. So you're sitting there on some. It's not totally flat, but it's virtually flat farm ground golden triangle of montana, best wheat producing country there is, and uh, but you got mountains all the way around you easy access I'm coming out there oh yeah, you got to I am you got to come out I mean, you're going to run down coyotes.

Speaker 2:

There you go, we're going to do that. He's been talking about running down coyotes guys all week. I guess we can go ahead and tell him Kim, he's a trap maker. Kim makes Harris traps. If you go online, type in Harris traps, you'll find out all about it.

Speaker 3:

Kind of tell them a little bit about your traps, kim, what you do and that kind of thing. So I've been a trapper I mean I probably started when I was in junior high or whatever trapping beaver, muskrat, whatever Been trapping. My favorite thing to trap is coyotes and wolves, you know, they're just they're the hardest to trap, it's the most challenging. And when I first started trapping wolves, they have a three-week circle and uh, so they only come around once every three weeks. So if they come around and you don't catch them, you miss them. Uh, you got three weeks to wait till they come again. And uh, so I would go check my traps and there would be a wolf track there on the trap and it didn't fire. And uh, it was just frustrating because you got three more weeks to wait. And I said there's gotta be a better way to this. I mean, there's gotta be something different. And so I scratched my head and it took me two and a half years. I was OCD over this trap 24, seven, 7, couldn't do nothing else, couldn't sleep nothing and finally came up with this trap.

Speaker 3:

Every trap on the market has a tip pan. You put it, you put a latch over the jaw and you put the pan on it and it's set and or the pan latches over the trigger itself with no dog and it's called a tip pan. If you have a tip pan trap, 40 of that trap is dead zone. In other words, an animal can step inside that trap but he cannot set that trap off. So what I came up with was a pan that went straight up and down and no matter where they step at on inside the jaws, it fires the trap. So it opened up that whole. It's a whole new game. It's actually kind of ahead of itself, you know, and there's a lot of people out there that haven't grasped what it is. But you can use a way, smaller trap and and trap the same animal, because you've opened that up and you now have 100% of that area to catch that animal. And so that's how it led to what I've done with the trap, and it was mostly, like I said, to trap wolves.

Speaker 3:

And then I took them out, put them on the market and everybody's like when are you going to build a coyote trap? And I said I don't know. I said you know, I'd like to. If I can do it cost effective and and make it work, I am going to build a coyote trap. Well, can't you just scale it down 30 percent or whatever? And I said I don't know, I haven't tried yet, but you know I'll have a trap here in a year or so. You can't just scale it down, it doesn't work out, because part of it works out okay, but the other like, for instance, the trigger, the, the trigger in relationship to the jaw that doesn't just scale down and work. So it was like building a whole new trap again.

Speaker 3:

And not only was I building a coyote trap, I was building two coyote traps at the same time. And so only was I building a coyote trap, I was building two coyote traps at the same time. And so that was quite the process. And I look back now the funnest process of the whole thing was that 24-7 OCD designing and trying this, trying that, and when you finally get it, it's like I compare it to riding bareback horses. A buddy of mine told me one time when you get tapped off and you finally conquered the riding ability, the skill or whatever to ride that horse and be tapped off, so you're totally in time, so whatever, it's better than sex, I guess. And he was right. And that's kind of what building that trap felt like. I mean finally got everything to work, everything to click and it worked and it was just like wow, I mean, it was huge.

Speaker 2:

I hear it has. Is it called centerfire?

Speaker 3:

Centerfire, centerfire traps, yep, and I named it that because you got the pan in the middle. It goes up and down. It's kind of like a centerfire rifle cartridge. Everything's right there in the middle. When you tap that middle, you got it. Bam, yeah, bam.

Speaker 2:

Well, I don't know a lot about trap, but I enjoy it. I love it. I know there used to be a huge fur market.

Speaker 3:

There was it. Excuse me, I'll turn that off. No you're fine.

Speaker 2:

These podcasts are the way they come out, kim, we're not trying to. Yeah, you're good, we're not going to edit nothing, right, so anyway.

Speaker 3:

I'll have to call you back because we're in the middle of a podcast. Yeah, bye, I forgot where I was which son was that that was the middle one. I have three of them and that was the middle one. He's probably the most interested in the trap and the business and whatnot but hasn't committed yet. But anyway, I forgot where I was before. But uh, no, it's. It's been a huge, huge venture taken on, uh kind of created a new lifestyle in a way.

Speaker 2:

That's kind of awesome when did you start the traps?

Speaker 3:

so I started. Well, when I can't. Kind of a unique story to this is is when, thought of it, I was laying in a canvas tent on a cot in the middle of the Bob Marshall wilderness trapping wolves, and I'd go check, you know, and I'd have one of them where they stepped and it didn't fire and whatever. And I went back and I checked all the traps that day and I went back and I laid down on the cot and, uh, I took a little nap, thought I was taking a nap, resting, whatever and it all of a sudden it jumped in my head and I was like I know how to fix that. And so at that point, you know, now I'm back there in the middle of nowhere and all I want to do is get home, start this project, start going on this, and uh, so when I got home, which was the winter of, oh, actually I should say the spring of 2016, and so it took me till 2018, a little over middle of 2018, to get to where I had a product that I could sell.

Speaker 3:

And I went to a, went to a rendezvous at 13 traps, 13 wolf traps, went to a rendezvous and I was sitting at a table and there was a guy there. He had trapped wolves in Russia Uh, I can't even remember where all but worldwide trapped wolves and tigers and he was there. And he come up to the table and he's looking at the trap. He says, man, are you a? Are you a mechanical engineer? And I said no, I'm not no mechanical engineer. Are you a welder? I said no, I mean, I know how to weld, but I'm not a welder.

Speaker 3:

Uh, you know all these things he accused me of being and I was nothing, all I was a farm boy that wanted to fix something and uh, anyway, so he he's kneeling down on the ground and he's looking at that thing. He's like we've been using the same thing for 200 years and now we got this. He goes this. He was just floored, he couldn't believe it. And that's the kind of response I got from and I still get it today from a lot of people that just, they look at it and they're just, this is revolutionary, it's totally new, it's, you know, nobody's seen nothing like it.

Speaker 2:

So technically in the trapping world this is really just taken off.

Speaker 3:

It is Like I said, I'm a little bit ahead of my time. You know what I mean, Because the fur market has it's died out because of the economy, the way it is, and everything you need. Russia, Ukraine, China buy 90% of our fur and they're not in the ballgame right now. Canada was huge but the antis have shut that down. So because of the economy and because of the fur market and stuff, it's taking a while to get going. But it's kind of the way I want it. I want it to be nice and I've been in other businesses and you jump in and it just goes boom and you can't handle it all and I don't. I didn't want this to be that way. I wanted to come in at a little slower pace, so it's been working good for me the way it is right now. So guys.

Speaker 2:

You can check out harris traps and maybe a trapper listening to this, I don't know. But one thing I did notice what you said a while ago rendezvous. You may ought to tell the folks what you're talking about. You went to a rendezvous, okay, some people may not know if you've watched the old movies, western movies, whatnot.

Speaker 3:

My favorite show in the whole world is called the mountain men. Okay, and it's not that little series where they're doing everybody nowadays, it's actually. It's charlton heston and brian keith and they're the mountain men and it is. It's a, it's kind of a, a funny view of a trapper's world and the way it was back then. Then they go to a mountain rendezvous. Well, when you had all the trappers in the mountains, pioneers, whatever, and uh, they would have a winter rendezvous where they would kind of meet up. I mean, yellowstone was a great place because it it wasn't so treacherous and whatnot, you could get away without all the. They had a lot of snow, but anyway they would all get together in the winter and kind of huddle together and fellowship and survival and whatever.

Speaker 3:

I'll be at the same place. So now, modern days, we have rendezvous in the, mostly in the summer, um, but like I'm a, I'm a lifetime member of the Montana Trappers Association, the Idaho Trappers Association, um, the National Trappers Association, um, and there might be another one or two that I became lifetime members of. But every state that has a trapping association has a rendezvous sometime during the summer months. The national one has a western, a southeast regional, a national which, until I started going to these rendezvous, I'd never been west of the Mississippi.

Speaker 3:

And now that I've been to the rendezvous like for instance this year, our national rendezvous is in Harrisonburg, virginia, and last year it was in Sioux Falls, south Dakota and they asked me if I was going to go to that one and I said I'm not pulling my trailer and going that far, clear over there, not realizing we're not that far from it right now, and especially delivering the horses the other day, we're in West Virginia. I'm like I've already been, you know. I mean I'm almost there, so we'll see how it goes. I don't know if I'll go or not. So a rendezvous is just a get-together. All the vendors are selling product, you've got demonstrations, everybody's giving demos on how to trap, how to skin.

Speaker 2:

It's just a big old get-together good time. So you're building these traps right in Conrad, right there at your place.

Speaker 3:

Yep.

Speaker 2:

Who helps you? You've got to have help to build them.

Speaker 3:

So right, I've had a few kids help me now and then Some of my kids have helped me for a while. The main thing everybody kind of gets is it's repetition, monotonous, kind of like working on a Ford factory and you put in headlights all day. It's kind of the way it is putting a trap together. But my cousin Dwayne he's a year older than me, he was a welder by trade and had kind of retired, he was done, he was you know whatever, and he didn't live in Conrad for quite a few years and all of a sudden he called me one day and he says he says hey, he says tell me, what's going on with these traps, how, how's this work? So I'm telling him and stuff and he says well, you need a welder.

Speaker 3:

And I said I said yeah, I said I kind of do, I said I'm doing all the work myself. I said I'm getting older, I can't see very well the. You know, I, I had everything on my shoulders, I was, I was everything. I was manufacturer, uh, supplier, businessman, selling, shipping everything and it was.

Speaker 3:

It was starting to get kind of overwhelming and stuff and he said, well, I'm planning on moving back to conrad. Maybe I need a job. I said, yeah, you might. So I moved to Conrad. He took a look at everything. He's like I can do that. I said I know you can. So he's been my main welder, even though he takes off and goes to the Philippines for the winter and does his thing and whatever. And he comes back in the spring and then him and I build traps frantically for the spring and the summer and into fall and whatever it takes in the middle of Swathing too.

Speaker 3:

In the middle of swathing and my oldest son has mostly taken over that. I do a little bit nowadays but that's a full-time chore because you're gone from home 24-7. Swathing is basically three months out of the year to make your income. You live in a pickup, you're never home and that was probably a little strenuous on part of my relationships too. But anyway, he's taking that on right now and he does a hell of a good job and yeah, it's kind of there's a plate full come summer.

Speaker 2:

Y'all call trucks out west pickups.

Speaker 3:

Yes, we do Around here. You're in touch with them. They're're all trucks. It's a truck, they are. If you go to billings montana's trucks, I mean, nobody talks trucks except old, farm-raised kids and then you all refer to an everyday driving truck as a pickup right.

Speaker 2:

Yep, I guess that's the difference in the northwest that's the difference southeast.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, duane, shout out to you.

Speaker 2:

I don't know if you're going to watch this or not, but we miss you. Wish you could have been here southeast. Yeah, duane, shout out to you. I don't know if you're going to watch this or not, but we miss you. Wish you could have been here this week. Duane was here in october for our get together with um kim and we got to meet duane.

Speaker 3:

He's in the philippines right now and I don't think he even knows that this clinic went on. But when he gets home and he watches the videos and whatever and I'll make sure to rub it in at how much he missed he's coming in October, hopefully. And hopefully he's coming back.

Speaker 2:

yeah, yeah he's a super good guy. We had a blast. He had an adventure here in October. Yeah, we did. Kim started here first time he ever come here and wrecked his truck in Mount Vernon, illinois was it Mount Vernon.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, um, mount vernon, illinois was mount vernon. Yeah, we, we, uh. So duane and I brought my granddad's wagon down to uh, hansen wagon wheel in south dakota, dropped it off.

Speaker 3:

I'd visited with doug um pre, you know beforehand, and had had made a plan, and so we were going to drop this wagon off at doug's place he's going to refurbish it for us and then we took off and we headed down here and we made it to mount vernon and a semi in front of us all of a sudden locks up his brakes getting down the highway and we did the same and and I, I turned and I was headed for the ditch, going to get around him and stuff. Well, he had the same plan and so he went down in the ditch and we went down in the ditch and plowed right into the back of him and yeah, it wasn't wasn't real good total to pick up. That didn't hurt the trailer thank goodness that was my ex-wife's trailer that I'd borrowed from her and uh, didn't hurt it, but total pickup and shout out to alan oberholzer down here on the creek he come, got you he did what?

Speaker 3:

I mean I called steven and I said hey, we just got in a wreck. And I said I don't know how we're going to get there, how things are going to work out. And he says I got, I got a good friend. He says he'll come get you. I said, well, tell him, bring a stub nose for that trailer, it's the only thing it needs. And we'll pull the trailer down and he come and got us. It was about a five hour ride. Yeah, super people. I mean I'm telling you what everything that I've ever needed, wanted, whatever when I'm here, steven's taking me to the airport this afternoon because I fly out of nashville. They came and got me in nashville and brought me over here. It's just, it's unreal the hospitality they got and friendships, and it's wonderful.

Speaker 2:

That's one thing you'll find here in this country. We take care of each other.

Speaker 3:

It seems like it. Yep, I mean everybody I meet here and stuff, henry and the whole. Yeah, I believe it. It's a tight-knit group of people that absolutely enjoy each other. It is.

Speaker 2:

We're tight-knit and we, you know the people that come in for us. We're tight-knit and we, you know the people that come in for us. We're tight-knit with them too. Yeah, we'll take care of you.

Speaker 3:

You know that I've been shown that many a time.

Speaker 2:

I, yeah, totally appreciative and I'm coming to conrad sometime you got to do it, you got to get on your can and chase coyotes with you. There you go, we will. That country is fascinating to me because I I've been a lot, but it's just not something I see every day.

Speaker 3:

No, it's just like this. I mean, this is a nice country too, but you don't do the same things here that we do at home.

Speaker 2:

Every podcast I do, it's somebody from way away and we're here. The difference is unreal.

Speaker 3:

It is the way of life. But yet, human, human life and human friend, you know all your aspects of life. Yeah, everything out there might be different, but it's all the same in here. You know what I mean. That's right?

Speaker 2:

yeah, it's all the same, just different places. Right?

Speaker 3:

yeah, you talked about granddad's wagon yeah hanson yeah explain to him a little bit what you got going on with this project okay, so I, originally, I I've saved my granddad's wagon for a while, since I was a kid, you know. We sat in the barn and I, you know, I asked my dad or mom, or whatever way back when I said, you know what is this? Oh, that grandpa used to haul grain to town and that thing and I and that was just something. So let me back up just a hair when I was a little little kid and I used to watch bonanza. One day, uh, I'm watching an old hoss, he pulls up on a team team with a buckboard and blue roan team. Oh man, someday I'm gonna have one of them. And then, uh, so then along came grandpa's wagon, you know, and I heard the story.

Speaker 3:

I got an 80 year old uncle at home that used to work for my granddad and, uh, he told me the story one time, the first time. And uh, he said you know, I used to work for your granddad. He said one day he come home he had the newest, neatest, coolest wagon you ever saw. He says it was three tiers tall and there wasn't no three tier wagons in that country. And he says he was going to haul grain to town in that wagon. And so what he told me the story. He said what they did they. And so what he told me the story said what they did they. They hand shoveled the wagon full of grain in the evening or the day before it was full. It's ready to go. He hooked up next morning, got up early, hooked up a team and he took off for town. And it was 30 miles one direction and so he took off for town, made it to town. He would unhook the wagon, go uptown, get a room, probably go down to the bar, have a drink and socialize a little bit. Uh, next and next morning he would go get supplies, went, hooked up the wagon, dumped the load of grain and he headed back home. And so it was a two, two day process actually three if you want to count the day of shoveling at full three-day process to get 75 bushels of grain to town and then return home.

Speaker 3:

And I said, I told my mom one day, I said, you know, I says I'm gonna get a team of horses, like haas had, and I'm gonna pull granddad's wagon to town full of grain so that I can sell it for less than he did, because farming in that country is tough and I mean they're still selling grain for the same price or less than he did today. And that was my goal. That's been my goal since I was. That was probably a junior high goal that I had. And so when we sold the farm, I mean mean, the first thing I hauled out of there was granddad's wagon. Just I'm keeping this thing, it ain't going nowhere.

Speaker 3:

And it sat at my place for quite a while and I moved one other time, uh, and it moved with me and and it's been sitting there and then along came blizz and frost. Then I saw, saw that ad on your web page, your site, whatever, youtube, and I'm like I'm calling this guy, I'm going to get them horses and I'm going to get this wagon project done. We're going to make this happen. Well, and we can go into Blizz and Frost here in a minute, but anyway.

Speaker 3:

So when we were coming down for the get-together in October, I said let's kill two birds with one stone. Let's take that down to Hanson and get this thing done. So we hauled it to Hanson. He's going to refurbish it. He said it'd take about a year. So I'm figuring about October this year we should have it and my goal is to hook the team up, go out to the farm because I still go out there now and then visit the country and whatnot and load it full of grain and pull that thing to town so that I can dump it in the elevator and sell it, like Granddad did, and make the venture back. Just don't ask me why. It's just something that's on my bucket list and it's going to get done. I think it's neat, something that's on my bucket list and it's gonna get done.

Speaker 2:

I think it's neat you're talking about doug hansen.

Speaker 3:

Doug hansen hansen wagon and wheel letcher, south dakota. Hell of a nice guy. You know I don't know him as good as I know you or whatever, but he, he's a guy. I can see I could get along with him like I do you. Oh yeah, he's just a hell of a nice guy we ordered bells from him.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, for our horses for christmas time. Yeah, he does wonderful work he does so this wagon? Is it an owensboro? Who do you think made the wagon?

Speaker 3:

it's a well, it's a studebagger or, excuse me, it's a peter shuttler wagon. And and I didn't really know. You know I'm getting more all the time because I've been collecting wagons and refurbishing wagons myself and started to do some of that and it's kind of my passion right now and and uh, but anyway, I took it down there and he looked at it. He's like, oh yeah, that's an old peter shuttler and they absolutely love doing wagons like that, that, even though it needs a new box and it is a little rough in places and whatnot. The history that's there in that wagon, that when they start tearing apart and refurbishing they learn so much from that. And so, anyway, so he, he said we pulled it there and we unrolled it out of the trailer and stuff. And he looks and he goes, yeah, it's a Peter Shuttler. And crawled underneath and he looked up on the back axle said see that right there stamped 1916, that's when that was built. And uh, I'm like, yeah, cool, I mean it's been there the whole time, but I didn't know where to look and anyway, so he uh, we went over the whole wagon and what I want and and how it's going to be, and he was going to send me an estimate and all this stuff and and, yeah, it's.

Speaker 3:

I mean I've seen pictures of other wagons that they've done, how they come out, and you know we sat down at his computer and looked at different pictures. I said that's what I want, right there. I want that thing to look like that and the main thing that I want because even though it's all old wood and, and you know, deteriorated to that point, the running gear is in perfect shape um, it's, and you, you can barely see the pinstriping on it, but you, but there's enough there that you can still see that pinstriping. And I told him, I said I want it to look old and antique, but I want, I want that pinstriping to be visible and I want it to stay there for a while, because that wagon is probably going to go to one of my grandchildren, you know, and I want them to be able to look at that and go, well, that was, you know, four generations ago and and grandpa redid it and actually be five generations and and grandpa redid it. And yet look what we got, and who knows what it'll be like back then.

Speaker 3:

It might be a piece sitting in the corner of a lot somewhere at their house or whatever, or they I mean, my one little grandson is so cowboy and so into it that he may have a team pulling that thing around. I don't know, but it's. It's cool and it's going to be really. When he gets done with it. It's going to be awesome. It's what it done with it.

Speaker 2:

It's going to be awesome. It's what it's all about.

Speaker 3:

It's what it's all about, yeah.

Speaker 2:

A lot of people don't know, but those old wagons and horses built America.

Speaker 3:

Yes, that's what built America. It did. I mean, like I said so, my great-granddad was in Blue Earth. I don't know how he got to blue earth minnesota, but I know they and duane and I, when we're coming down here in october, we're driving along, never even crossed my mind or nothing. But we're driving along, all of a sudden here's this big stone thing blue earth, minnesota. Welcome to blue earth, minnesota. I said that's where granddad came from. I looked at duane. He said we need to stop and take a picture. Well, we'd already passed it. We figured we were going home the same way and uh, but we took a different route, so we didn't get our picture. But we went right past blue earth, minnesota. I said can you imagine riding, driving a team, riding in a wagon from here to conrad? I mean, I don't know how long adventure it would have took, but it's just those people back in those days just amazed me, you know, and it just overwhelms me with emotion of what they would have went through to get there.

Speaker 2:

I can tell because we talked about it a lot on the way to West Virginia. He's like Daniel Boone. You're like how in the world did he find this place?

Speaker 3:

I have no idea how Daniel Boone jumped on a horse and went through these, the Blue Hill. You know all this country. That's solid trees and it'd probably take you half a day to ride a mile or two on a horse.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, so you met me. It was June 2023.

Speaker 3:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

And I had Blizz and Frost. Okay, y'all can go back on YouTube. And had Blizz and Frost. Okay, y'all can go back on YouTube and watch Blizz and Frost the video. He bought them Blue Roan Gildings. Yep, back to Bonanza. You wanted Blue Roan team, you got your Blue Roan team.

Speaker 3:

So I called Steven and I said I'm interested in these horses. He says and they're sold. I said they're sold and I said they're sold. He says yeah. I said all right, you know, and I just kind of put it out of my mind for a little bit. Next morning he calls and he says hey. He says if you want them, blue, blue roans he says they're available. The guy guy can't do it, he's not gonna. He backed out and I said really. And he says yeah, and I said okay. I said I don't know what I said exactly, but anyway we struck a deal and whatever. And I said if you deliver them to Laurel Montana, well, he was going to Laurel anyway. I said if you deliver them to Billings, to Laurel, I said they're sold. And he said well, I got a full trailer load but I'll see what I can do. I'll call you back in two hours. He called me back in two hours. He says I got room. I said bring them on, I'm ready.

Speaker 3:

And uh, so I that's when I actually first met steven. I talked to him on the phone but uh hadn't met him, didn't know what he looked like, damn thing. And uh pulled up. Pulled up there, steven, and I'm expecting henry, because I watched the video and henry's on the video and he walked. Stephen walked out of the house and he come walking up and I said, hello, stephen here. And he says, well, I'm Stephen. I said really, I said I kind of had the other guy pictured. He goes no, that's my helper, that's Henry. And uh, so as we were walking down to pick up, you know, the horses were in a lot down there and Stephen and I are walking down to it and we're talking a little bit about it, and I said the only thing I wish is that they were mares. And he said, well, I could sell you their mothers. And I said, no, I don't want their mothers, I want the crossbred. You know, I want the whatever. And I said I'll be happy with the gildings. Well, shall we keep going on with the horse story?

Speaker 2:

how it all ended up well, there's one horse story in between, the horse story. This is a long story, guys, but you can listen to a podcast, so I guess you can listen. But there was a team of Suffolk quarter horse perch and crosses and I knew of them for a long time and really wanted them and I got a chance to buy them and I brought them here and videoed them and sold them to a couple in Pony Montana. Shout out to.

Speaker 3:

Dixie.

Speaker 2:

Mike, mike and Dixie Myrie from Pony Montana. These folks are in their 80s and they wanted a team to drive through Pony Montana one more time, drive the team through Pony. So they bought the team from me Super good team Duke and Dutchess and yeah. But they bought them and they was out there. They drove them one time through the town and evidently Mike was not in too good a shape yeah, his health wasn't that good.

Speaker 2:

Covid got a hold of him so they needed to sell those horses. Well, she called me and said can you put it on live feed or something that we want to sell these horses? Well, I did. Well, who was on the live feed? This guy. He listened and he called me. He said man, I'd like to get those horses. So it kind of happened yeah so.

Speaker 3:

So I went home with with blizz and frost and, uh, thoroughly enjoyed I mean they were. They were everything, if not more than what you guys represented them as. And my good buddy, Lance, that you've now talked to on the phone a couple times, Anyway, he come in and I said you need to come drive this team with me. And he come in and he's like, wow, you know, he was thoroughly impressed and anyway. So back to I'm watching Stephen's videos and stuff and all of a sudden Duke and Duchess pop up and I said, man, if I hadn't have bought them blue boys, I said that's what I'd have bought right there, and so it wasn't very well.

Speaker 3:

I called Stephen and I said, because I thought maybe Lance wanted them, because he's kind of a Suffolk guy and whatever and you know I asked Stephen about it. He says, ah, they're sold. They went to Utah and I'm like, oh okay, Out of sight, out of mind, and it was probably and I'm going to say a good maybe week. Two weeks later, all of a sudden Stephen calls me and he says you know them Suffolks. And I said, yeah, he says they're available.

Speaker 2:

You said they went to Utah, but it was Pony Montana.

Speaker 3:

Well, I think the guys from Utah backed out and then Dixie called and got them, but I don't know how it all.

Speaker 2:

That's right. The guy from Utah paid for them and wanted to resell them. That happens sometimes. People buy them and they want to resell them. Yeah, so that team, we had them here. The guy from Utah paid for them, wanted to resell them, so I sold them to Mike and Dixie sent the guy from Utah his money back and now Mike and. Dixie wants to resell them.

Speaker 3:

Right. And so Stephen calls and he says hey, the Suffolks are available. And I said, well, yeah, you know, you got shipping involved and everything else. He said they're in Pony Montana. And I said really, and so he gave me Dixie and Mike's number and stuff and I called him and I had a discussion with Dixie and I said stuff, and I called him and I had a discussion with Dixie and I said I said you know, I said I just bought this other team. I said if you're looking to turn them overnight, I said I'm not your guy. I said but if you, if you're patient a little bit, have a little bit of patience and stuff, I said I'm your guy, I'll take them. I said I'm thoroughly impressed with them. And so, and she told me, she said Mike had COVID and he's got on oxygen and his heart's not bad and he can't take care of him, this, and that we got to sell him. And so anyway we struck up a deal and I kind of needed a little more patience than what she had, but anyway we got it done.

Speaker 3:

And anyway I come home with Duke and Duchess and again I called Lance I'm like he'd come drive this team and so he'd come in and he drove them both. In fact, at our hometown function last year, lance drove that team in our parade and I drove the Blues. And yeah, I think he realizes what they are. I mean, they're good, they're broke, they're what you guys represented and they're both damn good teams. Well, so on, we go here. You know, now I've got two teams and doing a little bit here and there and working both teams and trying to keep them both going and stuff. And the guy when I bought Blizz and Frost, the guy that backed out I guess it was a day or two after I'd spoken for him, he got a hold of Stephen and he'd now got everything put together and he's ready to do it. And so he came down to Kentucky and bought a team of blue mares from you.

Speaker 2:

Mr Stephen Lord, shout out to you, Stephen Lord.

Speaker 3:

Yes, a big shout out On my part, a big shout out to you, stephen lord. Yes, a big shout out on my part, a big shout out to you too. And uh, anyway, so stephen calls me up one day and he says you know them blue mares that that you were talking about? Yeah, he says stephen lord bought that and I'd seen a little clip. Stephen did a testimonial so I knew he had them. And uh, but anyway, steven, this steven calls and he says he says them blue mares are available. There's issues have come up and stuff, and he wants to get rid of them. They're available.

Speaker 3:

And I and I kind of just started laughing, you know, I said man, you've already tapped me out. I said I'm not really in this game and and, uh, but I wanted them mares so bad, I really did. And I went and looked at them and I made a deal with steven. I thought I did and I didn't have the money to pay for him. Right then I had to work some things out and get to get spring, to get here summer, get here, start swapping, make some money, do whatever. And every time I talked to him it sounded like he was going to sell them to me. But then I talked to you and he says well, I think he already sold them and this and that and whatever. I was getting a little nervous and fidgety, you know, because I really wanted them mares, and anyway it finally happened. You know, we got to Swath and I had the money.

Speaker 3:

I called Steve and Lord, I said I'm coming to get them. And I mean he, he was bawling when I pulled out of there. He didn't want to see them horses go and he's petting them. And he was bawling and I said I said, stephen, they're two hours away. If you want to come and drive them, if you want to come and look at them, you'll see how they're doing. Any, you know, whatever it takes, if you want to come on and I've not heard back from him yet, you know, I mean life moves on, I don't know what he's even doing. But Stephen, lord, you're still welcome to come and drive him. Come see him, do whatever you want to do.

Speaker 2:

Well, I heard he's moved down to Anaconda or somewhere he may have he lives in an RV. Okay, his dog's name is Henry.

Speaker 3:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

Well, that was kind of funny that he's got a dog named Henry. Yeah, you know Henry.

Speaker 3:

But now, as it turns out, this is an interesting part of the story. So when I was down visiting Doug Hanson and he says, and I told him my plans of taking a load of grain to town, like Granddad did, and all this stuff, and he said, well, he says when you get this wagon home, he goes, don't fill that thing all the way up. And I said, why not? And he goes. Well, it's a hundred and some years old, you know, he goes. He goes even though it'll be refurbished and it's essentially a new wagon. He goes. That wood's still old, on that running gear and stuff, he goes, he goes.

Speaker 3:

If I was you and we sat down with a little chart and figured out what was going to weigh in everything, and he says, he says I wouldn't fill it all the way full, and I said, I said good point, I never really thought about it, but yeah, thanks for the info. So then that got me thinking. I'm like, you know, I don't know if granddad pulled with a team or four up, you know, but according to this weight, look kind of looks like it's going to be a four up job. And I'm like, hmm, maybe I'm a firm believer that everything happens for a reason and even though I might've been at poverty level for a little bit, by getting everything that I'm I'm getting common, it's it's still all common and that I'll probably sit down and ball when I get done with that trip, because I got my teams, I got my wagon, I got the whole damn thing and I actually come through with this goal that was set back when I was in junior high. I mean, it's emotional for me, it really is, it's awesome.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, what's the wagon going to cost, don't? You can say if you want, I know myself.

Speaker 3:

Well, let's just say almost what it costs for two teams. So it's up there.

Speaker 2:

Some people don't understand what it costs to do this kind of stuff. The wagon is going to be a lot.

Speaker 3:

It's going to be a lot to get it done and the reason is, like I said, the running gear is perfect. They've got to build a brand new box, they've got to paint this whole thing so that it looks antique, and the biggest part is that pinstriping. There's one guy that they have as an outside source that does most of their stuff for them, but he hand paints all of that. Right, that does most of their stuff for him, but he hand paints all of that, like, like every look at a picture of an old, old wagon and it's done exactly the way it was done in the day it'll look exactly the same. But for him to sit down and paint all that, hand paint all that stuff at you know 70, 80, 85, whatever it is an hour that they charge, that's right, that that pinstriping is a huge cost of that renovation.

Speaker 3:

And he told me. He said he said you know, you, if you wanted to lessen the cost of this and not do the pinstriping, you, you can get into this for way less. Well, no, that what sticks in my head is the first time I ever looked at that wagon and I look underneath and I can faintly see all that pinstriping. That's what I mean to get that back to that stage that I can see that and it might be a a part of you know, you might call it stupidity to spin, but that's what I want and and to pay what I want, get what I want. That's, that's where I'm at and it's going to be iron wheels. Oh, it's got wooden wheels with iron tires.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he'll redo all the wheels and everything.

Speaker 3:

So the only thing they need to shrink the tires and other than that, there was one spoke and one part of webbing on one wheel. But most of them wheels are good. They don't have to do a whole lot to the wheels.

Speaker 2:

It's more work than people think it is. It is have to do a whole lot to the wheels, so it's more work than people think it is. It is, but you've got a. What was the guy that built the wagon's name?

Speaker 3:

uh peter shuttler you've got a peter shuttler wagon redone by doug hansen, that's totally original it's gonna be worth a lot of money yeah, it would be if I I mean it'll probably never get. It's not money we're gonna recoup because it'll never be for sale. But, like here's the way Doug put it to me, because I called him and I said, you know, I said you've got a running gear just like that out front there that I could probably buy for less money than I'm going to get into mine, you know. And he said, yeah, but it's not Granddad's wagon. Well, to me that's huge because it's Granddad's. Well, to me, that's huge because it's granddad's. And to get it all done and know that it's just cool, it's going to be awesome. He said when you go to the next Teamster meeting and you pull up with that thing, he goes. Can you imagine the cool factor? And I said there ain't nothing like it. It's going to be awesome.

Speaker 3:

Oh, it's gonna be really good and and then see so that I never had a brother. I have one sister, but I never had a brother. And so, like duane and I coming down here in october, that's that's as close as I have to a brother. You know, it's a cousin and uh, so for him and I, and especially like the blue earth thing, I mean he was sitting there and and when we were in high school and stuff, we didn't really get along. I mean, he's a year older than me but we, we didn't really get along and uh, now we get along super.

Speaker 3:

You know it's like a brother it's, and he gets to go through that with me and I don't. You know he never would have. Without me being in the picture, none of this would have came about for him. But now he gets to take part of that stuff and it's. I think it may not be quite as emotional for him, but it's still a huge part of what, what he is and where he came from and everything else and I I know what affects him too. You've got a big family though Personally you do.

Speaker 3:

Well, yes, not behind me, but in front of me.

Speaker 2:

Let's shout out to all your children. You can shout out to them.

Speaker 3:

Because I have six kids. I have three girls and three boys. I was married twice and I had three wonderful children with each of those women, um, and with each of those women and I'm still friends with now that we're divorced and we can do our own thing. I get along with both the women excellent. You know, I couldn't ask for anything better, but I couldn't get along with them. Things just didn't click and we didn't get along when we were together.

Speaker 2:

Are you looking for a new woman? Because there's a lot of people on the podcast maybe listening.

Speaker 3:

There's probably a whole bunch out there that maybe are thinking this is my kind of guy, I'm not looking for a new woman. I I do, as friends, yes, but as a get married and have a live-in partner, I'm not. I'm not there you love that little place in conrad I love my little corner of the of the world and and and I I relate it to I got a lot of norwegian me and I'm a stubborn goose and I'm 64 years old. They're not changing me, so yeah.

Speaker 2:

Well, give all your kids names and shout out to them if you want to.

Speaker 3:

So I'll start at the oldest and go to youngest. And I got Jerrica, jerrica Ryan, who just gave me my fourth grandchild in August. Absolutely gorgeous little girl. And from there you go to Jaylene, who is a vet. She's been working at schooling since the day she graduated high school. I think it's like 11 years. She's been going to vet school, but she's, you know, she had to go to Vegas and take a test a couple weeks ago. When she passes that, she's already got a job. She will be an x-ray technician in the vet world. So she's secure to everything. That's awesome. She's just a super smart girl that had high goals and it's taken her a while but she got there.

Speaker 3:

Uh, then you go to my oldest son, who's colt. He's got three wonderful grandchildren. He's married to a woman that's got three kids of her own. So I got six or three grandchildren or three step grandchildren. That's what I want to say. They're all super. Um, colt is the one that runs my, you know, has basically taken over the swather business.

Speaker 3:

Then you jump into the other family and I got kinsey, who's the oldest daughter of those three, but my youngest daughter, and she just had a in November Another beautiful baby, wow. Then you go to McClay. He's my second boy, I don't know, he's the brains of the family, I think he's just unequivocally so smart that he can't understand it and it's hard to keep him busy and keep him focused and whatever. But he's now going to school and in bozeman, to be a uh. Well, I think he's first going to be an rn, but he'll probably end up being some sort of doctor in the end. Uh, and then you've got tavin, my who just gave me a granddaughter in September. Absolutely gorgeous granddaughter. I mean, grandchildren are the best.

Speaker 2:

How many grandchildren total do you have?

Speaker 3:

So if you count the stepchildren as well and I forgot to mention that, jerrica, the oldest one, she's got two step boys and one of her own. Now, uh, jaylene hasn't had time to find the right person to settle down yet. She doesn't have any children, she's single and whatever, but she's absolute beautiful person. Um, and then you go to okay, so I'm at three colt's got six, so that jumps me up to nine. It so I'm at three Colt's got six, so that jumps me up to nine. He's got three step and three reel Jumps me up to nine. And then Kinsey has one, that's ten. Clay doesn't have any and Taven's got one, so 11. So I'm an 11 grandchildren.

Speaker 2:

You've got six kids, 11 grandkids. There you go.

Speaker 1:

And two ex-wives.

Speaker 2:

Yeah that you still have to congregate with Right.

Speaker 3:

And prior to that, my mom wanted six children and she only had two.

Speaker 2:

She had me and a sister.

Speaker 3:

So there's only two of you, there's only two of us.

Speaker 2:

Is your sister still alive? Yeah, she is. Where's she at?

Speaker 3:

She's in Conrad, her and her husband, and they have three kids and they have, let's see, two, three, five. They got seven grandchildren, six grandchildren I think, but both of your parents are gone. No, my mom's still alive. Your mom's still alive. My mom's still alive. She's got dementia, really bad, and she's in a home and she's just February 25th. She just turned 84.

Speaker 3:

So you don't see her at the home then yeah, it's kind of hard because she doesn't, you know, she's to the point where she doesn't even know who we are and really I don't go visit her very much because it's just hard on me, heartbreaking, yeah, it's heartbreaking. It's so hard on me, heartbreaking, yeah, it's heartbreaking. It's so sad when people have to go that way and dementia is as bad as cancer.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I would rather, you know, have a good mind and a weak body and you just wake up dead someday. You know, I don't know. Yeah, it's pretty hard on her, but my dad died back in 2010,. So, yeah, so your family's all Conrad, all the way, pretty much really. And so back to duane for a little tiny bit. His whole, he had, uh, five brothers and sisters and they traveled all around. He never really was in conrad except for now, and then he had little blips being in conrad.

Speaker 3:

Um, but yeah, everybody says, well, are you related to the harrises here or there or wherever? The only relatives that I know that have the harris name? My dad had a brother. He had two sons that moved to california and those are the only two harris relatives that I know of that I have. One of them had one son and the other one never had any children. So people ask me why I had six children. I said somebody's got to carry on the Harris name and, just as a joke, we have a lot of Hutterite colonies in our place around us and I always told them because I was starting my own colony.

Speaker 2:

You know there's a lot of harris's here around here there's some harris's plaskey county and around kentucky here I have sold so many traps to harris's.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and there's a guy from virginia and I can't think of his first name right now. I don't know if he'd ever hear this or not, but he called me. He's like we're related.

Speaker 2:

You got to check back in your genealogy and stuff we're related yeah, we might be I don't know yeah, yeah, it's wild man, all right well we're gonna wrap this thing up.

Speaker 3:

We gotta go to nashville yeah well, I don't you do, I do you're gonna get on a plane I'm gonna get on a plane fly home. Hopefully it's a good flight, oh it'll be good.

Speaker 2:

I flew the same flight you're flying and I love it. Guys, if you need to fly from this part of the country to Bozeman Montana, I can go to Nashville and get on a plane round trip. What was yours? Mine?

Speaker 3:

was 166 round trip.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, round trip it floored me.

Speaker 3:

I'm like I had no idea.

Speaker 2:

And it's a one-way flight.

Speaker 3:

You go from nashville direct to bozeman, no stops.

Speaker 2:

It was two hours and 43 minutes to get from bozeman to here and that's what I'm going to do and call you and say come, get me there for those. There you go. Yep, but guys, um, check out harris traps, harris centerfire traps. Do you have a website or anything, kim?

Speaker 3:

so my, my son created a facebook page for me, which I don't know how to operate but I'm lorded, but I don't post on it. I haven't done it. I have like 1900 followers and I don't have know how to respond to them and whatever yet. But he, if he wasn't in bozeman and me and Conrad and we could spend time together. If he was hanging out at home every day, we'd have the website up and going and he'd be talking to people. But no, I basically uh, advertisements I advertise in a lot of magazines and going to the rendezvous are my two sources of releasing this. And I told him way back when I said if you put that on Facebook and everybody, it's just going to go boom, and I don't want it going boom.

Speaker 2:

Well, how does somebody contact you if they want to buy traps?

Speaker 3:

So get a hold of one of your trapping magazines, find my ad in there and call me by phone, or you can email me, but the best would be just call me by phone. Or you can email me, but the best just call me what you want to give that on here sure it's uh 406-450-5961 and what's your email my email is harrisndztraps, and that stands for no dead zone. Harrisndztraps at gmailcom.

Speaker 2:

So there you go. You've got a way to get a hold of him. If you want to buy traps, he has video. If you go to YouTube and type in Harris Traps.

Speaker 3:

There is videos that pop up.

Speaker 2:

Well, people's made tons on actually trapping with your traps.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, there's lots of videos online.

Speaker 2:

You can find Harris Traps on YouTube.

Speaker 3:

Easy and it's becoming, you know, just word of mouth between trappers. It's because I mean I get guys that call and it because of the design of it and stuff and being new like that, you really don't get the concept of it till you get to put your hands on it and I've got. Can I order one? Yeah, you can order one trap. You can order six. You can order a dozen. You can order 20 dozen. Yeah, you can order one trap. You can order six. You can order a dozen. You can order 20 dozen. Whatever you want, you can order. Are you still?

Speaker 2:

full from last night. I am stuffed from last night. Me and Kim went to Longhorn Steakhouse in Somerset Kentucky. We went out to Longhorn Steakhouse in Somerset Kentucky. We had the best meal I think we could ever have.

Speaker 3:

Yep meal. I think we could ever have Steak and potatoes and onions and stuffed mushrooms. Stephen walked in this morning and he said how are you? And I said I'm still full.

Speaker 2:

But now we're going to go do something different. We're going to go eat Nashville hot chicken.

Speaker 3:

Well, let's hope the drive there lowers our food intake. I don't chicken. Well, let's hope the drive there lowers our food intake. I don't know.

Speaker 2:

Well, it'll be good. We're not going to eat the hot stuff, we're going to get mild. We don't like hot food. We had some good food at the clinic though Miss Michelle yes Grant. She made authentic Mexican enchiladas for us and Mexican rice. It was amazing.

Speaker 3:

It was really good. She made two different kinds she made mild and she made hot.

Speaker 2:

And we had the mild first. It was wonderful.

Speaker 3:

And I ate mild and I said, if that's mild, I can eat the hot Me and you couldn't eat the hot.

Speaker 2:

We could not eat it, but it was good.

Speaker 1:

Shout out to.

Speaker 2:

Cheryl.

Speaker 3:

It was good Shout out to Jill.

Speaker 2:

It was good. We appreciate you so much. Guys, we got so many good friends out there. There's so many good people there is we can't mention all of you and I just met about how many more this past week at this clinic.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, 12 more people that we added to our. I mean it's a growing family. It's going to be really good, like Carrie and Dallas from.

Speaker 2:

Utah Awesome people. And Melissa from upstate New York Awesome. Andrew from New York Yep awesome.

Speaker 3:

The gal from New York, the other couple from. Yeah, I mean, there's just.

Speaker 2:

Christine and Danielle from Cedro Woolley, washington. Yep, so many people come together over these horses and it's amazing Chris and Chris. Chris come together over these horses and it's amazing chris and chris. Chris and chris from gastonia, north carolina. There's so many people. We thank y'all and, uh, it's great.

Speaker 3:

Kim has become one of my probably best friends over over horses in this business and um, and I'd I'd like to put on here to anybody listening to this they're having to get together in october, uh again. And if you are, even have the slightest inkling of teams, wagons, horses, the whole of it, uh, and you can come down. You need to come down visually. You don't have to own a team or anything to come down to do this.

Speaker 2:

Everybody is welcome.

Speaker 3:

Yes, come be part of our family Brisket we're going to kill a hog and smoke it.

Speaker 2:

Henry makes a good brisket.

Speaker 3:

Yes, he does. It's unbelievable, it's good Guys.

Speaker 2:

We appreciate each and every one of y'all. Check out Harris Traps. Check him out on it. He'll give you the phone number. I'll put it in the description. You got his email. You can go to YouTube. If you're in the trapping world and you want to trap, check it out. Also, check out Hayes draft horses and mules, yep and um. Harness up is our podcast. Y'all are listening now. If you're new here, we really, really appreciate you. Check us out on youtube. Go over to the youtube channel. Haste draft horses and mules on youtube. Subscribe if you like what we're doing. We'd sure appreciate you. We're on facebook, we're on instagram, we're on tiktok, we're on x. We're all across the board on all social media platforms. We'd love to have you and guys until the next one. There's going to be some more podcasts coming soon. We had a little gap there, but I got Kim now on the podcast. We're going to have some more coming. A lot of stuff happening this year. It's going to be a huge year and we want you here with us.

Speaker 3:

Sometimes it takes a little while to get a podcast put together, because the first time we met you said we're going to do a podcast, and first time we met he said we're going to do a podcast and it took till now to get it done, but we got it done and we got a good one. I've really enjoyed this. I've enjoyed this. I've enjoyed it too.

Speaker 2:

I didn't think I would but I have y'all shout out.

Speaker 2:

If you need anything, holler at us. We're here to help you. We have teams for sale single horses, driving horses, harness wagons anything you need. We got it right here. Check us out on the World Wide Web at wwwdrafthorsesandmulesforsalecom. You got to spell out the end, so wwwdrafthorses and mulesforsalecom, follow us on social media, subscribe on YouTube. If you need anything, give me a call. You can call me straight, 606-303-5669. We're here to help you. We want your business and if you're out listening and you don't ever plan to buy a draft horse or mule you don't never plan to buy anything. We want you here too. We appreciate your support. You supporters out there mean so much, just as much as the people that's buying. Your support, your liking, your comment means the world to us and we appreciate you. Come in October it's going to be October 23rd, 24th, 25th and 26th here at 1271 Halen Young Road, liberty, kentucky. Everybody's welcome. It's going to be a huge get together of nothing but riding wagons and having a great time.

Speaker 3:

Everybody's welcome and not everybody may know what a great singer and that used to play in a band and all that stuff and Stephen's going to try and get the band together.

Speaker 2:

I'd like to have fun he's going to be the entertainment. If you like bluegrass music banjo, mandolin, fiddle, guitar, sing some.

Speaker 3:

We got a little taste of that the other night and it was awesome.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I enjoy playing the mandolin and singing. I really do Banjo guitar and we'll have good fellowship and if you want to meet some of the best friends you ever had in your life, come to that get-together.

Speaker 3:

I say, come and meet some join our community, join our family.

Speaker 2:

Subscribe to youtube now and join. You can subscribe to youtube now and start following along, comment and build up to october. It's going to be a great time kim I appreciate you I appreciate you too.

Speaker 3:

Thank you, this has been been wonderful, even though I didn't think it was going to be, but it turned out good. It's going to be great I'm turned out good it's going to be great. I'm just not an in-front-of-the-people type kind of person, but it worked out.

Speaker 2:

There's nobody here but me and you. Well, Herschel's looking at us over that chuck wagon.

Speaker 3:

There's a whole great big audience out there.

Speaker 2:

Just know you've got a home right here in this office, anytime I appreciate it and it's more than accommodating.

Speaker 3:

I thoroughly enjoy it.

Speaker 2:

But, guys, we're going to round this up. We can probably talk another hour, but we've got to get him to his plane because he don't want to be late for his flight. But, thank you all, god bless you and until the next one, keep harnessing up your team and we'll see you soon. Bye-bye, bye-bye.

Speaker 1:

Bye-bye. As another captivating episode of harness up with haste draft horses and mules draws to a close, we extend our sincere gratitude to our listeners for joining us on this enlightening journey. We hope today's discussions have deepened your appreciation and understanding of these magnificent creatures. Remember, the adventure continues beyond this podcast. Stay connected with us on social media and share your stories. For more information and to explore further, visit drafthorsesandmulesforsalecom. Thank you for being part of our community. Until next time, keep harnessing your curiosity and passion for these God-given creatures. Farewell for now.

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